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yeah it is going to have 8 players online, i wanted a multiplayer without online, because i dont have online. I cant wait to till it comes out, i want to try the new camera mode but i dont have a problem with it right now. Like somebody said, the best part is going to be the remake of the two...

Yes i just finished watching the e3 2005 trailers for both and im shocked. MGS3: Subsistence http://www.konami.jp/gs/kojima_pro/english/003.html MGS4 http://www.konami.jp/gs/kojima_pro/english/004.html MGS3 has been made online with 4 players!!!! Its like a mulitplayer. Also, the...